How would you explain 'rale mennen kase' or is it 'rale mennen vini'? Are they both the same? thanks

rale mennen vini (brase lide, echany lide) , which can be used as verb and also noun, is a get-together with the objective of exchanging ideas on a particular issue.
 rale mennen kase can describe the same thing, but also has other meanings.

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